Free roaming

[Nikz]

Okay, so I've been hearing quite a few things about LA Noire and free roaming, and I just can't get it straight!

Is there going to be free roaming? You obviously cannot break into cars as you're a good guy, and this is not precisely a sandbox game, but I do wonder.

Thanks to anyone who helps.

[Dave]

Do you mean in single player? If so, yes there is free roam. Here's a quote from the game's producer, Jeronimo Barrera.

Quote:The world is completely open for you to travel through at all times, but the focus of the game is not the same as a Grand Theft Auto or Red Dead Redemption. This time, the city is a backdrop for the incredibly accurate real-world locations and crime scenes that Cole Phelps explores on his way to solving each case. The game has been crafted to seamlessly blend classic cops-and-robbers style action with dynamic interrogations and searching for suspects in a way that one doesn't distract from the other.

There are ambient events within the game world that you will hear more about in the weeks ahead, like unassigned cases or robberies in progress that you can take on outside of the main story, but the focus is on Cole's progression through the ranks of the LAPD and the events that unfold as a result.

Source.

Also, stealing cars may not be allowed, but as Phelps is a policeman he can commandeer any vehicle at any time legally.

P.S. Welcome to the forum, Nikz.

[Mr. Fatale]

Yes this is free roaming it just isn't as sandbox and say GTA 4. So here's hoping it won't feel like ghost city aka Mafia 2.

[.Trooper.]

I think what they mean is that they will give you something to do, like go to this crime scene, or go to this house to interview this person... But while you have to make your own way to that location, you'd also be able to go wherever you want while that 'checkpoint' is still there.

[Nikz]

Thank you all for the quick responses, and thank you Dave, I'm glad to be here.

[Giuseppe DeAngelo]

(03-05-2011 10:10 PM)Mr. Fatale Wrote:  Yes this is free roaming it just isn't as sandbox and say GTA 4. So here's hoping it won't feel like ghost city aka Mafia 2.

AKA means Also known as.
Ghost City aren't also known as Mafia 2.
That'd mean that Tumbleweed, in RDR, could also be called Mafia 2.

What you meant is "Like" Mafia 2.
And even then, you're wrong.
If you go outside, how many people are there in your street?
Three, maybe four. Maybe even less. But I'm quite sure your street won't be crowded with people.
I wonder why gamers do expect this to happen in their videogames.
It's completely not realistic.

I do agree that Mafia 2 didn't have nearly enough Civilian models. They all looked the same.

[Mr. Fatale]

(03-05-2011 10:55 PM)Giuseppe DeAngelo Wrote:  

(03-05-2011 10:10 PM)Mr. Fatale Wrote:  Yes this is free roaming it just isn't as sandbox and say GTA 4. So here's hoping it won't feel like ghost city aka Mafia 2.

AKA means Also known as.
Ghost City aren't also known as Mafia 2.
That'd mean that Tumbleweed, in RDR, could also be called Mafia 2.

What you meant is "Like" Mafia 2.
And even then, you're wrong.
If you go outside, how many people are there in your street?
Three, maybe four. Maybe even less. But I'm quite sure your street won't be crowded with people.
I wonder why gamers do expect this to happen in their videogames.
It's completely not realistic.

I do agree that Mafia 2 didn't have nearly enough Civilian models. They all looked the same.

Sorry grammar police. I meant to write 'feel like A ghost city' and I would strongly argue that Mafia 2's city is 'also known as' a boring old ghost city. It just felt dead. Besides I'm comparing a open world game city with another not some random shanty town like Tumbleweed. And 'ghost city' is a saying (ghost town, but we talking about L.A. Noire's city so I changed it) it's not a name so what's with the caps? Obviously your not very familiar with colloquialism, look it up in the dictionary, it's the use of informal words or phrases. Like 'gee she's really ugly aka your mom'.
And I didn't say Mafia 2 felt dead because of the lack of population so I don't know where you got that either? It just didn't feel like a living breathing place like GTA 4 or RDR or even Fallout.

[Ljud]

(03-05-2011 10:55 PM)Giuseppe DeAngelo Wrote:  If you go outside, how many people are there in your street?
Three, maybe four. Maybe even less. But I'm quite sure your street won't be crowded with people.
I wonder why gamers do expect this to happen in their videogames.
It's completely not realistic.

lol? Where do you live? I live in a really small city (population of 270.000) and a lot of streets are definitly more crowded that the ones in GTA IV and Mafia II. Don't get me started on bigger cities.
And there are a lot of things happening in cities. Open air festivals, marathons, students are gathing in the parks, people leaving from stadium.
Crowds are realistic in certian areas of the city and we've yet to see that in games. You should go out more.

[Mr. Fatale]

^ lol

[Dan]

Baiscly what i would like is to beable to free roam during missions and once the game is finished being able to walk the streets do what you want like GTA like mafia 2 once the game finished that was it unless you had the ps3 and had that jimmy DLC.

[Nikz]

Well, any multiplayer then?

[Dave]

(03-06-2011 01:13 AM)Nikz Wrote:  Well, any multiplayer then?

That's an unknown at the moment. Several previews have said it's single player only and I'm pretty sure the press sheet said '1 player', but that may just mean there's no offline co-op.

So far there's been nothing to suggest there is any multiplayer, but R* may well spring a surprize on us.

[Giuseppe DeAngelo]

(03-05-2011 11:58 PM)Ljud Wrote:  

(03-05-2011 10:55 PM)Giuseppe DeAngelo Wrote:  If you go outside, how many people are there in your street?
Three, maybe four. Maybe even less. But I'm quite sure your street won't be crowded with people.
I wonder why gamers do expect this to happen in their videogames.
It's completely not realistic.

lol? Where do you live? I live in a really small city (population of 270.000) and a lot of streets are definitly more crowded that the ones in GTA IV and Mafia II. Don't get me started on bigger cities.
And there are a lot of things happening in cities. Open air festivals, marathons, students are gathing in the parks, people leaving from stadium.
Crowds are realistic in certian areas of the city and we've yet to see that in games. You should go out more.

So, because my street. The actual street where I live, instead of the whole city. Because it's nearly empty, it means that I don't go out?
It's more likely to mean that my City is just not as huge as large cities in America.
I live in The Netherlands, and during the day, most people are at work or school. So, yes, my streets are then nearly empty. As far as I know, since I work and go to college myself.

And in the evening, they're nearly empty too.


I was talking about the streets specifically. Not locations that attract visitors like parks, stores , stadiums and train stations.

[Ljud]

I visited Amsterdam in your country and there were a lot of people on the streets. Rollerblading, riding bicycles and walking around. A lot more than three or four. Certainly not less.

[Giuseppe DeAngelo]

Yes.. but that's an exception.
It's a tourist city, with a lot of visitors that come from everywhere, every day.
The mere fact that you visited Amsterdam proves this.
The city has all kinds of "attractions", that you should know of. Most cities don't have these.

However, if you would take an average Dutch city, like mine..
You will see that most streets, especially those with houses.. which I was talking about, aren't as crowded as streets in video games are.

Now, if you'd visit the road in that same city, ofcourse there are cars. Plenty of 'em. I wasn't saying that our cities are completely empty. But the streets.. where people live.. are.

[The New Blueguy]

Giuseppe, you're putting way too much thought into a simple colloquialism. He simply meant Mafia II's streets felt barren because of the lack of interaction with the city and its inhabitants. Don't take things so literally.

[Giuseppe DeAngelo]

I wasn't talking about that anymore, though.

We, atleast.. I think we are, are now talking about how gamers always think that the worlds in their video games should be crowded with people. While I disagree, because it's not realistic.

[Mr. Fatale]

Yeah and I love how you just swept my response aside because my reply owned you!
BAM!

[Giuseppe DeAngelo]

(03-05-2011 11:58 PM)Mr. Fatale Wrote:  Sorry grammar police.
I meant to write 'feel like A ghost city', and I would strongly argue that Mafia 2's city is 'also known as' a boring old ghost city. It just felt dead.

Besides I'm comparing a open world game city with another not some random shanty town like Tumbleweed.
And I didn't say Mafia 2 felt dead because of the lack of population so I don't know where you got that either? It just didn't feel like a living breathing place like GTA 4 or RDR or even Fallout.

And 'ghost city' is a saying (ghost town, but we talking about L.A. Noire's city so I changed it) it's not a name so what's with the caps?
Obviously your not very familiar with colloquialism, look it up in the dictionary, it's the use of informal words or phrases. Like 'gee she's really ugly aka your mom'.

You wrote "feel like a ghost city AKA Mafia 2". So, no. I doubt you meant to write "like a ghost city". As you actually added to it.

Tumbleweed, in Red Dead Redemption, was a "Ghost town". Quite literally, too!
"A ghost town is a completely abandoned or semi-abandoned town or city".
As such, I assumed you meant that Mafia 2 felt empty. That you meant something else, is thus not my fault. It's your own.
I do agree that it didn't feel living and breathing. This is because the NPCs in Mafia 2 weren't interactive. They wouldn't be scared when pointed a gun at, lest they are a shopkeeper, for example.

I know it's a phrase.
I'm familiar with it. I just don't think it fits. It doesn't make sense in the context. When something's also known as, it's a synonym. A different word, with the same defenition. Like mom and mother. But you can't say mom aka mother. Unless Mom is someone's name, and they're also known as "Mother". Like it's a nickname, or a pseudonym.


I sometimes accidentally do that. Don't know why. I guess because I'm typing fast, my mind wants to type "city" and thinks it's the name of a city. And then writes "Ghost city" as if it were the name of a ...city.
But.. if we're going to start about such things.. I could aswell ask why you capitalized "A" in "feel like A ghost city".

There, I responded to you. Happy?

[Ljud]

(03-06-2011 05:38 AM)Giuseppe DeAngelo Wrote:  Yes.. but that's an exception.
It's a tourist city, with a lot of visitors that come from everywhere, every day.
The mere fact that you visited Amsterdam proves this.
The city has all kinds of "attractions", that you should know of. Most cities don't have these.

So you are saying that L.A. (L.A. Noire), New York (GTA IV), Rome (Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood), Venice (ACII) are not tourist attractions?

I think that we want to see interesting cities in games. Cities that in RL would attract tourists. And that kind of cities have people on the streets.

And yeah, there are not that many people walking on streets where there are houses and I doubt someone wants to see crowds of people in that areas. But there certainly are parts of cities where there are crowds of people and games don't really have that. And cities have things happening in them and games don't. I was really excited when I saw a festival in Assassins Creed II.

I agree with you on that ghost town thing though.